It seems like the main barrier to replacement with these newer H1 antihistamines for first line treatment is cost. Same size as your swiss army knife but has a tiny pen. Andrew please consider making another post on what’s in your repair kit. So get written instructions for how much of each type of medication to take and how often to take it. A couple notes regarding the CPR mask comments: In CPR you are expected to perform to your training. But Dionne, who specializes in pain research, says there is still room for improvement. Additional items that I carry. Children under 12 years: consult a doctor. According to a bear’s nose, you reek of odors. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. From what I can see, long term Diphenhydramine use has been associated with increased risk of dementia, along with numerous other drugs. Okay, so lately there has been a lot of confusion on how much turmeric one can take in a day and how many times one should take it. I have no financial affiliations with or interests in any brands or products, and I do not publish sponsored content. Another is that there any number of devices I could take but do not because i believe in being somewhat independent. On a group trip, medical situations are more likely and more diverse in nature, simply due to there being more people, each with a unique medical history. The diphenhydramine (“Benadryl”) is not really necessary. Got to look after the pearly whites. “The doses of ibuprofen and acetaminophen found in Advil Dual Action have been shown to provide safe and effective pain relief following minor dental surgery and simple tooth extractions,” Moore says. I don’t take a phone for a number of reasons. Ansel's Pharmaceutical Dosage Forms and Drug Delivery System, 9th Edition The windlass is key. Thanks, For a change, I wanted to bring up for your consideration the use of Hypafix dressing retention tape: Just to clarify: when a barrier device is not available it is up to the caregiver’s discretion whether to include breathing. – CPR and choking/drowning, etc. First-hand experience, or just what the lab data says? Properly discard this product when it is expired or no longer needed. I would actually disagree with that. I don’t bring Aspirin either, but I might when I am a decennia or two further on. Reports about respiratory depression for some snake and spider bites too, I guess death causes the ultimate respiratory depression… aka the pressure bandage failed and the patient is being flooded with venom. Super glue is part of my repair kit, so I wouldn’t be SOL in this situation. However, after reading another example of first aid contents, I include an oral anesthetic, tooth picks and floss. “People can feel like they are not getting the most powerful pain reliever if they don’t get something with an opiate, but it can be the opposite,” he says. Excluding certain prescription medicines such as nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medicines stored under reasonable conditions retain at least 70% to 80% of their original potency for at least 1 to 2 years after the expiration date, even after the container has been opened. All Rights Reserved. Information last revised June 2012. Acetaminophen is preferable in conjunction with SSRIs. Found inside – Page 87D yslipidemia C ardiovascularD isorders C H A PT ER 2 6 ... Postmenopausal—has not had GYN screening since onset of menopause (14 years ago) FHí Father; ... For a day-hiking first aid kit, I could see an emergency blanket, since you may be without extra clothing layers, sleeping bags, and/or a stove. Leukotape is the cat’s meow for so many things. I’m sure there is a crossover point between bringing rechargeables and a charger, but that would be for much longer than a week. Before replenishing my med kit after several long hikes, I made sure to reread you pertinent blog post on the matter (very helpful). David is a public health specialist with many years operational experience in primary care and infectious disease service delivery. As a physician, I agree with Travis, dont need the cpr face mask. The doctor said don’t worry but I was concerned,,so glad the #3 took care of It! Over-the-counter nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), such as ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin IB, and generic) and naproxen (Aleve and generic), work particularly well against dental pain because they block the enzyme that causes your gums to become red and swollen, says Paul A. Moore, PhD, a professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Dental Medicine. Bienvenue sur ZETOP. If your whistle ain’t louder than your yell, either you’ve got nuclear vocal cords or a pretty pathetic whistle. It is one of 113 identified cannabinoids in cannabis plants, along with tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), and accounts for up to 40% of the plant's extract. Sounds like you may be a desert specialist. Hi Andrew, They are very helpful. You mentioned you don’t leave it behind for security; not sure what I’m missing? In a school or commercial situation this is a no-brainer for me. On a personal trip, I only carry the iburpfen. Although not as small as a plastic bag, I use the travel-size containers that come with Tylenol, Ibuprofen, etc. It will be completely gone in 2–3 days. That’s according to a comprehensive research review by Moore and colleagues that was published in the Journal of the American Dental Association in 2018. I also have a scar from breaking my femur 2 years ago. Properly discard this product when it is expired or no longer needed. Walter, I’m not presuming to speak for Andrew of course, but you can take Acetaminophen in top of the NSAIDs, maxing both dosages. 1. Had never heard of that — pretty remarkable, scary actually, that such a widely used drug would have that affect. Overdose rates were also higher among the family members of those filling an opioid prescription, according to the team’s separate analysis of about 3.5 million medical records. Most pharmacies carry these, usually next to the pill/dosage reminder cases, finger splints, ect. We really enjoy watching your webinars, thank you! It’s for the greater good of the hiking / outdoor/ front-backcountry communities. Advil works well if you can use it, but I can't. Other information: Store at 20-25°C (68-77°F). medications- antibiotics, scalpel, suture kit, injectable lidocaine, etc.) Don’t hang on to them, especially the opioids. There is no need for a tail-off period. She has a past-surgical history of a hysterectomy approximately five years ago. P.S. That’s part of a winter snow country “first aid” kit. And if I were to badly cut myself, I want enough wound dressings and tape to treat it properly. Usage since then show that I simply respond best to Naproxen. Adults and children 12 years and over: take 1 or 2 tablets every 4 hours or 3 tablets every 6 hours, not to exceed 12 tablets in 24 hours. A Visual Guide. Obviously my medical background helped with this, but if you are far in backcountry it’s helpful to be able to identify how serious the situation truly is. She has a past medical history of hypertension, dyslipidemia, depression, obesity and osteoarthritis. Maybe a cooking system webinar would be good, we use a home made alcohol stove but sometimes struggle when it’s windy (we are looking into the cone). Thank you so much for your notes, lists, recommendations, etc. Right. Adults and children 12 years and over: take 1 or 2 tablets every 4 hours or 3 tablets every 6 hours, not to exceed 12 tablets in 24 hours. For an extra few grams, a good pair of tweezers is very worthwhile. one more thing, superglue for fussured and cracked skin at the corners of the fingers. If not here is a list of some awesome health benefits of turmeric.. *Heartburn meds—if you have bad heartburn, it’s difficult to sleep. From the current AHA guidelines: “In addition, if the trained lay rescuer is able to perform rescue breaths, he or she should add rescue breaths in a ratio of 30 compressions to 2 breaths.”. People undergoing any kind of dental surgery should ask what treatments are available and communicate their preferences for pain control when making a plan with their dentist or oral surgeon, Dionne says. Consider the early explorers that had only map and compass and what they accomplished. He is the founding director of the Centre of Infectious Disease Epidemiology and Research. *Emergency blanket–also helps in extreme cold-but also in a shock situation, this can be essential, though bulky, I like having this in a group situation for sure. […] found some great content on Washington Trails Association, Outdoor Herbivore, Outside Magazine, and Andrew Skurka’s website. I went to equate brand zyrtec Two years ago, China raised prices _ in the case of Neodymium, used to make Prius electric motors stronger and lighter, from $15 a kilogram in 2009 to $500 in 2011, while Dysprosium oxide used in lasers and halide lamps went from $114 a kilogram in 2010 to $2,830 in 2011. QLD Uni study shows 90% reduction in landings from 1 gram applied to arm after 15 hours and still 80% reduction after 19 hours. 4. (then of course, if you slather your feet up with before going to bed you’re…). The whole thing comes sterile and vacuum-packed and some of them even come with a clotting agent already applied to the pad. Diphenhydramine versus nonsedating antihistamines for acute allergic reactions: A literature review. I could do it in seconds on my phone. You couldn’t stand still for even a minute without getting bitten by hordes of these things, about the size of horse flies, and the bites are painful and burn. There was a-pocket of edema above the scar for the past 2 years (about the size of my fist). MEDICAL ALERT: Your condition can cause complications in a medical emergency. In the past you’ve recommended Sawyer Maxi-Deet spray but it looks like they are phasing that out and replacing it with the “Premium Picaridin” spray. Abella BS, William B, Michael B, Ian S, Moellman J, Klausner HA, Caterino J, Suner S, Kessler A, and Du J. . Thank you for the list, that’s a great first aid kid. If you are reading this, you already must be knowing about turmeric benefits. The spreadsheet cannot be found in Google Drive. Some official first aid guides even recommend not to use any salves on wounds at all, just some antiseptic solutions (containing iodine or octenidin). Last spring during a WFA class I was shown how to improvise a barrier mask using a vinyl glove..involves clipping the tips off of the middle and ring finger and inserting them partially into the patients mouth and then stretching the glove from chin to nose…not perfect but a pretty good solution in a pinch and some level of protection is better than nothing especially if rescue breathing is required. Luckily never had to use one, but seems like a relevant first aid risk. In that group, the overdose rate was 5.8 per every 10,000 patients, compared with 2.2 per 10,000 procedures among patients who didn’t fill an opioid prescription. Saks same-store sales rose only 3.2 percent last … Perhaps I am a minimalist. We covered footwear and footcare in another episode of SD LIVE, https://andrewskurka.com/2015/sd-live-july-22-would-you-suck-on-these-toes/. The Virginia COVID Information Center is a dedicated interagency effort across the Commonwealth of Virginia to provide Virginia residents and workers with an integrated, comprehensive solution for timely and accurate COVID-19 general information, in alignment with CDC guidelines, and simplify vaccination scheduling services for all Virginia residents and workers. In my post above I mentioned avalanche kits and river rescue rope and pulley kits as “First Aid” but really they are Rescue Kits. I don’t think what you do with the balm is going to make a huge difference in the scheme of things. I don’t see a risk in carrying Diphenhydramine for bites, stings or allergic reactions when it is just a short term use. “Twenty years ago, about 15 percent of all the prescriptions for opioids in the U.S. were being written by dentists,” he says. Information last revised June 2012. Love it! Trying to understand if there is redundancy, and what the superior product would be in that case. Thanks for the good info. That’s an extremely heavy few ounces to walk around with for the rest of my life. I’m a backcountry ski patroller, so this is of direct relevance. Thanks all. Found inside – Page 1172( 2 ) List of drugs or categories of drugs which are restricted to require ... the state will have less money to operate than two ( 2 ) years ago while it ... It should only be used as a life-saving resort. At first sight, you might think its an improvised copy of the Russian RPG-16 (a variant of the 40mm RPG-7 but in 58mm) but it’s not due to several differences. “I have never weighed my first aid kit.” If anything, it attracted them. Magnesium is involved in ATP synthesis, muscle relaxation and many other enzymatic processes (as I’m sure many know). It is one of 113 identified cannabinoids in cannabis plants, along with tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), and accounts for up to 40% of the plant's extract. There are a lot of people, including kids, on SSRIs. Yes, this stuff can reduce the circulation so be smart, Andrew, This size is wide enough to wrap an ankle (it holds better than stretch bandages) and could also be used to hold a splint. Saks same-store sales rose only 3.2 percent last … We have these in 4-5 inch lengths in the hospital. I graduated with a degree in information systems and business management about 3 years ago. Of course neither might the Aspirin, but I guess it can be better than nothing. Drink a full glass of water with each dose. Keep all medications away from children and pets. Good to know about diphenhydramine v the second-gen antihistamines. There is tweezer in Victorinox you think it doesn’t work good enough? This stuff has a strong smell that doesn’t go away, so make sure it is on an an air-tight container, especially if you fly. A DIY kit may be a greater up-front investment than a commercial kit, because you often have to buy more than you need. For benadryl, I always pack capsules instead of tablets. But what does the expiration date mean? If I were striving to be an “ultralight” backpacker (whatever that means), my approach towards first aid would be no different. – A mask makes a much more reliable seal. MEDICAL ALERT: Your condition can cause complications in a medical emergency. Drink a full glass of water with each dose. Is there precautions you have to take with them to prevent further injury? With the unneeded quantities of a DIY kit, create additional first aid kits for your home and vehicle(s). I don’t recall that distinction being made in my WFR recert last year, and for some reason I was thinking that it was actually diphenhydramine that had the edge in dealing with severe reactions. And these days having a satellite rescue beacon is a requirement. Great blog – and I watched the SD Live video, which I enjoyed a lot. Some knowledge and experience in herbals will be the best medicine available in a really long term SHTF situation. Make sure you’ve provided a thorough medical history so that your doctor can recommend pain relievers that are safest for you. In addition, many retail and mail-order pharmacies provide free kits that allow you to safely discard medications at home. Reference: 1) Drugs past their expiration date. I was introduced to it after a toe surgery. He has led a number of clinical epidemiology research projects in the areas of tuberculosis, HIV/Aids, immunization and STI's. @Mike Kiernan I’m curious where you got the information that 2nd gen are “superior in managing more severe allergic reactions than diphenhydramine.” I would love to be corrected on this one but from a hospital/clinical prospective i have never seen this to be the case!! Complacency gets me every time. When I have needed a custom bandage (only a few times ever), I have used a piece of roll gauze and then tape over it. Create your own, based on the specifics of your group, itinerary, and environmental conditions. David is a public health specialist with many years operational experience in primary care and infectious disease service delivery. When using Super Glue; once it is applied spray or lightly drip water on it for faster setting. Some of your items links go to REI, but i was able to find variations on Amazon to avoid an extra trip to the store. The battery life extension is unbelievable. One of the route condition checks I do is seeing if any areas I may hike thru are in state game lands proximity and during hunting season. Love the stuff, but it’s got that strong herbal smell! If your training is compression-only, that’s what you do. There is no need for a tail-off period. Do you carry a snake bite kit? In reviewing the current position and examining further possible impacts, this book is an important reference for researchers working in the pharmaceutical industry, as well as for environmentalists, policy makers and students on pharmacy ... It’s probably because ER docs and surgeons hate that stuff. Doubling up on acetaminophen can damage the liver and can be fatal. See citations below. Massive extremity bleeding is a low frequency, high consequence, survivable event with rapid treatment. I’m a medical professional (PA) with experience in Emergency Med and Trauma surgery. […]. I went to equate brand zyrtec Two years ago, China raised prices _ in the case of Neodymium, used to make Prius electric motors stronger and lighter, from $15 a kilogram in 2009 to $500 in 2011, while Dysprosium oxide used in lasers and halide lamps went from $114 a kilogram in 2010 to $2,830 in 2011. As a first aid instructor I’m really happy to see that you remind people that injuries and sickness might happen on a trip and that it’s good to be prepared. 1 should be enough to wrap an ankle and 2 this size could hold a splint around most folks thighs and certainly around a knee and lower leg. Drink a full glass of water with each dose. “Higher doses of ibuprofen and acetaminophen may be appropriate for more complex and traumatic oral surgical procedures, such as extraction of multiple impacted wisdom teeth.”. Has anyone had experience or training with these? I would argue Tylenol (acetaminophen) should always be included. My most recent CPR training still included mouth-to-mouth, though the instructors made sure to point out that there had been changes at other training levels. Why carry the large sizzors and the small ones of the swiss army knife. Thanks Andrew, this was a good update on “what to carry and when to carry it”. I found “pill” bags at a Safeway Pharmacy. The term First Aid should probably only be applied to physical aid for injuries and illness. Pharmacies in Canada do not generally carry it in the isles. 30 tablets. You can buy any size bag from a catalog company such as U-line. I didn’t see whether it is latex free or not. David is a public health specialist with many years operational experience in primary care and infectious disease service delivery. You do however need to ask why you were taking it. Worth considering. Great list and site. > you can take Acetaminophen in top of the NSAIDs, maxing both dosages. (they do not weigh much but are fairly bulky) Would you take them along and under what circumstances or trip conditions would you think they are appropriate/inappropriate? The triangular dressing can also be used to create other dressings such as the roll dressing. Properly discard this product when it is expired or no longer needed. Please contact this domain's administrator as their DNS Made Easy services have expired. I therefore think that cloth tape, roll gauze and perhaps some 4×4 gauze pads are critical to have along. Posted by 7 days ago. Okay, so lately there has been a lot of confusion on how much turmeric one can take in a day and how many times one should take it. They are not replacing this in the clinical world with any of the 2nd generation antihistamines as far as I am aware of. I feel like I have heard that it’s worth having both as well, and had been carrying both in my group kit for that reason, but I can’t find the original information. Maybe overkill as hikers are generally young and healthy but also safer for older hikers or with other medical problems where NSAIDs are contraindicated (NSAIDs can increase risk of bleeding and blood clots). Wrapping for storage make sure the fuzzy side is inside the roll to keep it from getting full of lint, dirt, and brush clippings. The newsletter is sent once per month, max, and normally contains informative reviews and skill tutorials. I have both Naproxen and Ibuprofen. 5) You can buy exactly the length that you need if pharmacies operate the same in Colorado as in Quebec (makes things cheaper although it’s not expensive compared to other tapes). It was the only product that really worked for that application. 16 GB. A question: in the last image (showing the communication devices) I see that the recharging power pack is not the goal zero. Acetaminophen (Tylenol and generic) works through a different mechanism to reduce your perception of pain, he says. 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